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Mike Goetzke
01-18-2011, 11:29 PM
I'm looking at blades for my 5008. I've traded a few PM's with Burt but thought others could add/benefit from this since it seems to be the preferred saw for the EZ. Here are a few I found (sorry hard to format a table at forums):

Manufacturer Model Dia TH Kerf Plate Tk Hook Angle Price
CMT 251.040.08 8-1/4" 42 0.075 0.047 15 $30.00
Makita 792377-A 8-1/4" 40 0.079 0.055 20 $30.00
Tenryu PT-21660-1 8-1/2" 60 0.079 5 $40.00
Freud D0840S 8-1/2" 40 0.094 15 $35.00

I liked Freud's on my 7-1/4" saws but 0.094" kerf seems like a bit much for a circular saw. Anyone have experience with any of these or others?

Thanks,

Mike

Tom Gensmer
01-31-2011, 06:15 PM
It looks like Forrest sells some of their Woodworker I and II blades in 8" diameters, I'll see if I can find the specs.....

Mike Goetzke
01-31-2011, 06:44 PM
It looks like Forrest sells some of their Woodworker I and II blades in 8" diameters, I'll see if I can find the specs.....

I ended up buying a couple of DEWALT DW3184 blades at Amazon. The specs are almost identical to the Makita but they were about $28 for the two shipped. They were delivered today so maybe I'll have time to test them out this weekend.

Mike

Tom Gensmer
01-31-2011, 09:45 PM
Hi Mike! I'd like to hear how you liked the blades. I'm leaning towards the Forrest blade, it looks like it is a 20 degree ATB with 5 degree face hook, 60T with a 3/32" kerf. I plan on keeping the original Makita blade around for rough work, and the Forrest (or other nice blade) for finish work.

Another option that occurred to me was to get the Universal blade for the Festool TS75, which happens to be a 8.25" saw, and get the washer to reduce the arbor from 30mm to 5/8". I was really pleased with the performance of the Universal blade on my TS55.

http://www.7corners.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=115_119&products_id=39889

Mike Goetzke
01-31-2011, 10:13 PM
Hi Mike! I'd like to hear how you liked the blades. I'm leaning towards the Forrest blade, it looks like it is a 20 degree ATB with 5 degree face hook, 60T with a 3/32" kerf. I plan on keeping the original Makita blade around for rough work, and the Forrest (or other nice blade) for finish work.

Another option that occurred to me was to get the Universal blade for the Festool TS75, which happens to be a 8.25" saw, and get the washer to reduce the arbor from 30mm to 5/8". I was really pleased with the performance of the Universal blade on my TS55.

http://www.7corners.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=115_119&products_id=39889

Tom - I have a Forrest WWII in my TS and really like it. I was even looking at the 8-1/2" blades but decided to stick with a very thin kerf blade (the Dewalt is around 0.075"). This makes it easier on the saw and will not require any more trimming of anti-chips since it's about the same kerf as the 24T blade that came with the 5008MGA.

Mike

Randal Stevenson
02-01-2011, 01:35 AM
One of the things I was looking for at the woodworking show last weekend was the Makita blade.

Due to the blizzard that is stretching from us to Dino, it will be next week at the earliest before I get to order it.

Mike Goetzke
02-01-2011, 09:47 AM
One of the things I was looking for at the woodworking show last weekend was the Makita blade.

Due to the blizzard that is stretching from us to Dino, it will be next week at the earliest before I get to order it.

Randal - I found the DeWalt blade specs. You can see it's close to the Makita for less than 1/2 the price:

Dewalt DW3184 Circular Saw Blade Specifications:

•Diameter: 8-1/4 Inch
•Teeth: 40
•Arbor Size: 5/8 rd
•Hook Angle: +15
•Kerf: 0.076
•Plate Thickness: 0.050


Got snowed in today so got a chance to try the DeWalt blade out. I made three cross cuts in red oak veneer ply. Hilti w/40T Diablo, 5008 w/stock 24T Makita, 5008 w/24T Dewalt


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/mbg/My%20Tools/EZ-Smart/IMG_1775.jpg


The Makita tests were with essentially new blades. The Hilti has a blade that has cut about 20 sheets of ply and some hardwood for my cabinet job (maybe time to retire it???). In person the DeWalt looks the best but the Makita 24T doesn't look too bad either.


(EDITED: I tried a new 40T Diable in the Hilti and it's not as good as the 5008 cuts. Before putting the new blade on the Hilti I tried a scoring cut with the worn Diablo and it looked MUCH better.)




Mike

Burt
02-03-2011, 01:53 PM
I find that surprising. I would have expected the Hilti to do the best cut. That Makita 24 tooth looks good.

I think that kind of shows why I like Makita blades.


Burt

LarryS
02-03-2011, 03:17 PM
Randal - I found the DeWalt blade specs. You can see it's close to the Makita for less than 1/2 the price:

Dewalt DW3184 Circular Saw Blade Specifications:

•Diameter: 8-1/4 Inch
•Teeth: 40
•Arbor Size: 5/8 rd
•Hook Angle: +15
•Kerf: 0.076
•Plate Thickness: 0.050


Got snowed in today so got a chance to try the DeWalt blade out. I made three cross cuts in red oak veneer ply. Hilti w/40T Diablo, 5008 w/stock 24T Makita, 5008 w/24T Dewalt


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/mbg/My%20Tools/EZ-Smart/IMG_1775.jpg


The Makita tests were with essentially new blades. The Hilti has a blade that has cut about 20 sheets of ply and some hardwood for my cabinet job (maybe time to retire it???). In person the DeWalt looks the best but the Makita 24T doesn't look too bad either.


(EDITED: I tried a new 40T Diable in the Hilti and it's not as good as the 5008 cuts. Before putting the new blade on the Hilti I tried a scoring cut with the worn Diablo and it looked MUCH better.)




Mike
Thanks Mike

Looking at it its a toss up between Makita and Dewalt. But Dewat is half the price, Dewalt wins:D

Larry

Tom Gensmer
02-04-2011, 12:20 AM
AH!!! So I noticed the other day that Home Depot carried the 40T Diablo 8.25" blade for $28. I got to thinking that as nice as the Forrest blade sounds, I'm a little leery of purchasing a $100 blade unless I know that I have a cabinet project coming up, and that in the meantime surely a $28 blade with similar specs would do just fine for most jobsite needs. So today I go to the Big Orange Box store to buy my blade and..... GONE!!! It's GONE!!! Along with all of the other odd-ball size blades, like the 8.5" blades! Oh well, I guess it reinforces my allegiance to my local tool store (Thomas Tool And Supply and Seven Corners Ace Hardware), I just have to drive further when I want to get my blades resharpened or need new blades...

Mike Goetzke
02-05-2011, 07:40 PM
Thanks Mike

Looking at it its a toss up between Makita and Dewalt. But Dewat is half the price, Dewalt wins:D

Larry

Only warning is that the Makita was a 24T and Dewalt 40T. But, that being said, I doubt a 40T Makita would give a better cut. I'll have to use the 24T Makita for a while and see if it still performs as well cross cutting with a little wear because I like ripping hardwood with the saw and less teeth are better so the stock Makita may end up being the best for my applications.

Mike

CarlB
03-08-2011, 04:49 PM
The Dewalt DW3184 is selling for $12.55 (US) right now at Toolking:

http://www.toolking.com/power-tools/saws/circular-saws/circular-saw-blades/dewalt-dw3184-8-1-4-inch-40-tooth-carbide-tipped-circular-saw-blade/

"Only 6 left" as of this posting.

ahudson
03-09-2011, 04:48 PM
Thanks Carl. I ordered two lastnight.

Tom Gensmer
03-10-2011, 08:46 PM
I picked up a 8.25" Forrest Woodworker 2 the other day for around $90, awesome price considering that the 10" blades often sell for well over $100! It has a 3/32" kerf (just under 1/8"), and seems much more stable than the thin kerf blades I have used in the past. Has anybody else sent in blades to Forrest for sharpening? Does anybody know roughly how long it takes them to turn blades around?

BrianJ
03-10-2011, 10:23 PM
I have these Forest blades and used them. My findings are that they are mechanically very stable BUT they create tear out with the Makita. I sent them back and they resharpened but have since installed a 8.5 Freud. Havn't had the opportunity to cut with he Freud.

Randal Stevenson
03-10-2011, 10:39 PM
I have these Forest blades and used them. My findings are that they are mechanically very stable BUT they create tear out with the Makita. I sent them back and they resharpened but have since installed a 8.5 Freud. Havn't had the opportunity to cut with he Freud.

Forrest always recommended having their blades higher (or in this case, lower) then the competitors, that, and the grind could make a big difference. I had on occasion thought about trying or custom ordering blades, but since I have come across the 7 1/4" Diablo's for $5 at times, it was too expensive a test.