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Old 10-28-2013, 05:26 PM
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Jack,

The anti spam application looks at not just the e-mail account, but the IP address and the user name, and checks them against those reported to them by their members. If I'm not mistaken, the message you get should tell you which was the reason for the rejection. My experience has been that most rejections are due to the user name entered, i.e. "Jack", "Fred", etc.

Another potential problem area is that if you service does not give you a fixed IP address, you can very likely get one used by a spammer at some point. I'm not sure about now, but in the past, AOL didn't provide fixed IPs.
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Old 10-28-2013, 07:12 PM
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Yes you got blocked as as soon as I found out that help was needed I got you through. Every one of us running this forum is a volunteer. Not one penny of payment. Yet I have to clear the registrations 4 times a day blocking 3 to 5 registrations each check. The system checks 4 points not just the two or three you mention. I have been told to not discuss this online as there are spam lurkers trying to figure out how to get in. Yes at times I have blocked questionable registrations, but I do it to protect the members. Spam is not the only reason forums get hit. Harvesting emails, hijacking members email accounts, and virus spreading are all goals of many of the "spammers." I have no idea why these clowns want to do this -- it makes no sense at all. The latest denial of service virus locks computers and there is no way to pay for release, or reconstruction available. Just malicious destruction of peoples equipment and that is it. All spread through attachments like photos, notices and spam. You may be annoyed by a few moments of inconvenience, but when this subject comes up, the members have stated that safety, and a clean forum is the most important issue. You obviously found a way to get registered. and I do have to reverse the "banned" blockade from 4 to 5 new members every month. Still, I do not believe our process that is out of control. We are looking at new ways to ensure that registrations are clean and legitimate, but this will be an ongoing process. As long as there are computer trouble makers, we will have to figure out ways to stop them. Some of those ways are not perfect -- as you have discovered.
If the members want us to let down our guard, they can tell us. Otherwise we will be continuing as we have and I will make some mistakes on the side of caution.

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Old 10-29-2013, 12:38 AM
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Jack,

The anti spam application looks at not just the e-mail account, but the IP address and the user name, and checks them against those reported to them by their members. If I'm not mistaken, the message you get should tell you which was the reason for the rejection. My experience has been that most rejections are due to the user name entered, i.e. "Jack", "Fred", etc.

Another potential problem area is that if you service does not give you a fixed IP address, you can very likely get one used by a spammer at some point. I'm not sure about now, but in the past, AOL didn't provide fixed IPs.
Dik,

I really don’t remember the reason given back in early July. I remember I had tried three different user handles for this site, 3 or 4 @aol.coms, and 2 @yahoo.coms for email addresses. I did a blacklist check of my Verizon IP address and it came back with 5 red flags.

http://whatismyipaddress.com

I then shut down my network modem overnight so I would get a new address. Did that; Checked it with Speedcheck; Still blocked. The new Verizon modem and address that I got for my mother’s apartment also did not work, and of course as I mentioned, neither did the network at the assisted living facility, but god knows what has come out of there.

Once I tried using the non-Verizon proxy address I was able to sign up on this site immediately without an issue. So I’m wondering if all new Verizon Northeast IP addresses are being blocked.


Phillip,

It looks like I hit a serious nerve that I was not intending to.

I’ve probably have over 3-4 dozen forums that I’m registered on, at least 4 so far this year. In fact, just to make the point tonight I just signed up to MDXERS.org as TMT. No problem with immediate registration and a confirming email - look me up. This site is the only one I have ever been blocked from registering. So with the lack of traffic on here, which in my mind is very surprising, I am asking the question of why based on the registering experience I had.

You titled your response “annoyed”. That was about my reaction when I never got any response from you about setting up my account so you have me confused with someone else for getting set up. In fact there is no member registration under what I requested in our emails of 6 July.

We all have lives outside of the net, and I do understand the tasks of being a moderator or admin. Been there back in the days of CompuServe and I would not want to do it today, even paid. But I blew off the non-response. I was the one on the blacklist so it was up to me to find a way around my issue, my problem.

I’m not a software / forum specialist so I don’t know what the best answer is. As I said earlier, unless all you guys are talking about EZ products and work on another site that I’m not aware of I’m surprised at the lack of traffic. Not many are going to go through what I did to become a member.

And Philip, I do honestly appreciate what you do as an admin.
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Old 10-29-2013, 03:02 AM
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Jack,

The legit traffic on the forum does slow to a crawl quite often, but I still receive the new member e-mail notifications, and I see 4-5 daily that never get through the final stage (responding to the e-mail), which tells me most are spammer bots (I guess some are potential members that receive the e-mail into their spam/junk mailbox and never see them). Most of those that don't respond are from Russia, given their e-mail addresses.

I can assure you that if we didn't have the anti spam software up, you would see lots of activity, but mostly spam. I no longer have access to check the traffic levels of attempts that are rejected by the anti spam software, but when I did, there were an average of 50 attempts a day.
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Old 10-29-2013, 05:04 AM
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The reason for slow traffic I think is pretty easy to tell. I have not seen a single advertisement, or article in woodworking magazines for any thing EZ. Lots of stuff on the new Kreg, and Festool gear.

About 2 weeks ago one of our members was bemoaning the fact the EurekaZone was not at any of the woodworking shows. I can not remember the last show that EZ attended.

Traffic on the forum is closely related to outside activity. For what ever reason -- I am sure the reasons are logical -- The staff of EZ is not actively striking up the EZ Band. I remember hearing about getting the videos and documentation in order -- so that would make sense to not heavily promote buying when improvements are soon to be issued. I am certain that the moment the EZ Band starts playing and the sales are on, the traffic will increase.


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Old 10-29-2013, 09:23 AM
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Also, we used to hear from Dino and sometimes from other staff regularly. It was always neat to hear about upcoming ideas. I think the new videos are very important, but miss Dino's, too. Perhaps there's not enough traffic to warrant it, but when I first started as a member of the forum, I appreciated Dino's and the others' posts. I know that Dino's role has changed, giving him more time to focus on developing ez ideas, and hopefully getting rest, fun, and good health. I'm glad he's doing these things. It's a shift for forum members, too.

Just to say that Burt, Dik, and Phil, and so many others are doubly appreciated.
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Old 10-29-2013, 01:02 PM
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The reason for slow traffic I think is pretty easy to tell. I have not seen a single advertisement, or article in woodworking magazines for any thing EZ. Lots of stuff on the new Kreg, and Festool gear.

About 2 weeks ago one of our members was bemoaning the fact the EurekaZone was not at any of the woodworking shows. I can not remember the last show that EZ attended.

Traffic on the forum is closely related to outside activity. For what ever reason -- I am sure the reasons are logical -- The staff of EZ is not actively striking up the EZ Band. I remember hearing about getting the videos and documentation in order -- so that would make sense to not heavily promote buying when improvements are soon to be issued. I am certain that the moment the EZ Band starts playing and the sales are on, the traffic will increase.


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Phil,
Your conclusion is correct. I know the EZ guys are working on getting all the ducks in a row to take EZ to the next level. Laney (the new factory general manager) is working on product videos and the ones completed to date are excellent. I am finishing up some of the instructions. Great things are happening and there have been many positive changes. Once the products, instructions/videos, shipping, and support are where they need to be, expect more shows and more advertising.

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Old 10-29-2013, 02:34 PM
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I am hoping the staff does not forget to enlist a good journalist. Most of the products that get the big market buzz are the products that we read about in magazines. The big mags push products that come with free articles written by big names or at least recognizable names. I used to own a county wide newspaper, and a few newsletters. Most of the articles you read in the latest issue are done by journalists that provide the text and photos. Often the service has been paid for by the subject company (or companies) and supported by advertisements. Making a profit is very hard in print media so the product companies that write the reviews and how to's will get the coverage in print for their product.

I had not even questioned the traffic on the forum as I had suspected the changes were afoot. These are all good developments, and I look forward to the new things ahead.

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