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Old 08-22-2009, 07:16 AM
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Default Dino Makropoulos

Hi Burt.
The long reach is the problem.
The new (optional, machined) smart base is designed with the 1/2" side shoe for ultimate stability.
We talked about the new base before and now is the time to get it done.
I will post few pictures and ask for few suggestions.
Thanks.
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Old 08-22-2009, 07:16 AM
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Default Gabe Olsen

One downside to using the circ saw to bevel is capacity. That is remedy by getting a bigger saw! Will be using the Makita 16" to miter 12x3 beams today and tomorrow. Will be using the clamping square and EZ rails. Should work exceptionally.
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Old 08-22-2009, 07:17 AM
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Dino,

Let me explain this to the others. I was talking about the front handle when talking about the the bevel. Dino is now talking about the main handle on the Hilti. The main handle is higher on the 267E. On a typical circular saw the handle is more to the rear of the saw making long crosscutting a bit easier.

That new base sounds very good. I made one similar for my 10 1/4" Makita and have been well pleased with the performance. This new base will mean no loss of depth of cut from the saw base.

Burt
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Burt,
I'm talking about the handle on the base. You have to use your left hand to keep the saw stable on bevel cuts. For long reach cuts the handle is out of... reach.
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Old 08-22-2009, 07:18 AM
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Okay, now I'm with you. At first I thought you were talking about your feelings about the Hilti.

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Old 08-22-2009, 07:19 AM
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dino,
just because you have worn out your welcome at JLC does not mean that brian cannot find good information about festool within its pages.

drills, planers and roto zip tools in the hands of a skilled operator do not need a track to operate. my comments were pointing out the fact that festool offers a complete line of tools that work with their tracks and vac ports and do not require additional modification for the vac to hook up to the tool.

plunge cuts are only dangerous if the operator is inexperienced or lacks the skill to do it properly.

in my opinion there is no comparison between EZ and festool because there is too wide a variety of options on each system. each system fits a different type of carpenter and in my opinion Brian should buy a Porter Cable cirs saw for his first saw and learn how to use and abuse a saw before he makes a purchase like the one he is asking about in his post.
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Old 08-22-2009, 07:20 AM
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Sean,
I get many e-mails (and sales) from the JLC members, thanking me for posting and provide real info and some balance to the F-Fanatics and paid posters.

Visit the FOG (Festool forum) and read what the Festool users have to "invent" in order to make their system...similar to ez.

If you can't see that a small American company is leading the woodworking innovation because you bought some high priced tools or for whatever other reason...this is your problem and have nothing to do with this thread.

Brian is asking for guide systems comparison.
Compare if you can and help Brian.

Thanks.
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Old 08-22-2009, 07:22 AM
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Default Dino Makropoulos

Originally Posted by sean m. titmas

plunge cuts are only dangerous if the operator is inexperienced or lacks the skill to do it properly.


Sean,
That make no sence to me.
If I have never used a plunge saw before how do I aquire the experience and the skill to use it?
By cutting my rails and buy few more?

Here is the real info that you don't like.
From Hilti website, not from me.
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Old 08-22-2009, 07:23 AM
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dino,
im sure that there are plenty of EZ and Festool fans on JLC, SMC and other forums. That is why i told brian to go there and read what was posted about both systems.

im not a fan of festool nor the EZ system. (its too much like socialism where everything is provided and controlled for the consumer) iv used the festools and was not impressed enough to make a purchase. that does not mean that they are not good tools, it just means that they are not for me. as with all systems out there, they cannot satisfy every single need, want and desire of each and every customer so some sacrifices on the part of the educated consumer are necessary.

not to change the subject,
but for the past few years I observed on JLC that many people disregard your contributions to the woodworking industry as basura. I think part of it is because in an attempt to sell your system you list out all the "cons" of the competition and use that as the reason why they should buy the EZ system. Instead of letting your system stand on its own merits (which it has) you resort to pointing out the negatives about the competition as "pros" for your tools.



All tools, and even more so, all tool systems have negative aspects to them for some people but if you dwell on that and keep on using those points to promote your product than you will turn people off to anything you have to say about anything even if you have a valid point or suggestion.



also using every question from a poster as a chance to talk up and sell them the EZ system is just bad manners and makes you come across like a cheap used car salesman.

Just my observations.
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Old 08-22-2009, 07:24 AM
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dino,

why is this such a difficult concept for you to grasp?

just about everything in construction that involves the use of a power tool has the potential to cause bodily harm and therefore can be considered "dangerous".

the first few times someone uses a tool it is dangerous because of the potential for error. after you perform the task repeatedly you gain the experience and lessen the risk involved. Thatís the basis for acquiring a skill.

what's up with Hilti? i happen to like their tools but your post makes no sense. please explain why i dont like it.
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