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Old 10-13-2016, 02:56 PM
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Last weekend I had to cross cut some vertical 2x6's in a cramped space. I just used a hand saw to do the cuts. Most people probably would have used a circular saw, but I have circularsawaphobia, so I chose to use the hand saw - and since it was just a rough cut anyway the hand saw worked OK.

Afterwards I started feeling bad about my circularsawaphobia. I actually ordered (on-line) a Kreg Square Cut - thinking that maybe I should use that to give using the non-EZ circular saw another try.

Well, last night I did some searching for information on saw injuries and risk. I was surprised to find a site that listed the hand-held circular saw as one of the most dangerous tools - near the #1 which is always the chainsaw. It said that lifting the second hand off the circular saw often leads to kickback, and since the circular saw likely spins faster than a table saw the kickback can be very fast and dangerous.

Huh. To use the Kreg Square Cut the user HAS to hold the Square Cut with one hand and the saw with the ONE other hand. So this leads me to think that using a Kreg Square Cut is probably a lot more dangerous than not using it.

In hind sight I suppose I should have clamped my 25" EZ track to the 2x6 and used the EZ Saw instead to make the cuts.
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Old 10-14-2016, 10:45 PM
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I confess. I'm the same way. I did something similar in a tight space recently, too. I have a variety of hand saws that I use in special situations.

I also agree about the Kreg Square Cut. It's the only Kreg product that's really disappointed me. Much like EZ, the simplicity of Kreg jigs are their biggest appeal.

My EZ UEG is much more stable.
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Old 11-13-2018, 12:58 PM
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Last weekend I had to cross cut some vertical 2x6's in a cramped space. I just used a hand saw to do the cuts. Most people probably would have used a circular saw, but I have circularsawaphobia, so I chose to use the hand saw - and since it was just a rough cut anyway the hand saw worked OK.

Afterwards I started feeling bad about my circularsawaphobia. I actually ordered (on-line) a Kreg Square Cut - thinking that maybe I should use that to give using the non-EZ circular saw another try.

Well, last night I did some searching for information on saw injuries and risk. I was surprised to find a site that listed the hand-held circular saw as one of the most dangerous tools - near the #1 which is always the chainsaw. It said that lifting the second hand off the circular saw often leads to kickback, and since the circular saw likely spins faster than a table saw the kickback can be very fast and dangerous.

Huh. To use the Kreg Square Cut the user HAS to hold the Square Cut with one hand and the saw with the ONE other hand. So this leads me to think that using a Kreg Square Cut is probably a lot more dangerous than not using it.

In hind sight I suppose I should have clamped my 25" EZ track to the 2x6 and used the EZ Saw instead to make the cuts.
Kenk. YES. Holding a square with your left hand and the saw with the right
is like looking for trouble....EZ.

One of the new-new EZ is to eliminate the square and free up your hand to either hold the wood or the saw... another simple idea here that we never
thought about it...because is so easy.

thanks for the reminder to move it in front of many.
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Old 11-13-2018, 01:08 PM
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Ken, For framing lumber cuts and rough cuts in solid lumber...
make your small track "captive"
One way is to make a dedicated cross cutter by removing the top of the track guide. ( only 5/16" wide slot) Use your SSRK or even the tracks to make few cuts with a track and saw.
To make it easy use 1/4" strips left and right of the track Guide to be cut
now the track is flat and few cuts later you have a slot.

Use a connector and screw it to the sawbase.
the connector slides inside the track ( upside-down) and keeps the saw and track together. In case of kickback...the track becomes the guard.

Talking about some of the ez features in the near future.
I use the ssrk before and worked nice. 2 flute cutter works better and go slow.
Or....the ez-track and a saw. always clamp.
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Old 11-13-2018, 09:23 PM
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The Festool hk55 with the captive track looks like a pretty cool deal. I think Mafell was the first to make one.
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Old 11-13-2018, 10:21 PM
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The Festool hk55 with the captive track looks like a pretty cool deal. I think Mafell was the first to make one.
EZ was the first one to get a patent. the ez track is captive but we never needed the function...never made the base to lock on the tracks.

The next one is to remove the track.
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