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Old 11-08-2018, 02:36 PM
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Sean,

from my post...

"Saw Unit" is the name that I like with multiple uses.
after 5 years of mistakes and errors....

I had pallets of circular saws and routers taken apart and make few monsters.
That was crazy. Importing saws that wasn't available in US.
Now we can change the name to a "Saw Unit".
it all come together looking for a way to make trenches ( wide dadoes)
using machinist ways.
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Old 11-10-2018, 06:11 PM
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Custom saw base? To do it right you'd have to replace everything from the bottom of the motor down. If you even want to compete let alone beat the euro tracksaws you can't do it keeping the factory blade lift and tilt mechanisms.
Are you saying custom bases for 20 different saws? That's crazy and unrealistic. Concentrate on 1 or 2 good quality saws.Even with that, IMO, doing a custom base would require a level of sophistication I've yet to see in an EZ product. Also skeptical given EZ's track record of not delivering.
sophistication? not delivering?
we did have some hick-ups but we always deliver the best product
and made woodworking better for all...while lowering our prices every year.

even today...there is no tool system or any tool that can do what is can...
have you even giving us some very well deserved credit?
For the ability to cut the thinnest possible strip of wood until no wood is left?
For the cleanest cut possible using a
$10.00 blade VS a $5.000.00 tablesaw with a $200.00 Blade?
Sean, we have to support innovation to enable the company to compete
and stay true to the promises and be able to offer more and more...
sophistication. brw, SOFIA in Greek is even a saint.
Agia Sophia... the Church ( saint sofia) was build in Konstantinoupoli.
Capital of the Eastern Roman Empire named after the first Christian emperor...
Konstantino...from where I got his name...
Interesting history...Now the town is named Instabul.
Even how the Capital was taken over by the Ottomans Turks is very interesting.
the By now Romans-Greeks ( Byzantium) empire that ruled for 1000 years...
they don't accept an offer by an engineer/ inventor to built a BIG Cannon...
and they let him live. ( That was stupid)
He offer his invention to the Turks and the rest is History.



Back to the base?
Thinking of combining all Modunis and Modinos bases to a Kit.
You right about the details and I will take examples from the CNC Saw Units.
The EU and now Asian Plunge saws is a hoax and you know that.
I can't believe they allow this type saws in the market and they even show people using them to cut framing lumber without a track.
Have you ever use one?
If you ever take the Plunge...Go for the Dewalt.
Better than all others in the Plunge design.

The most productive and easy to use Circular saw in my lifetime was
a Bosch SCMS transformed to an ez saw. You may remember that one from the videos. I was cutting multiple layers and strips faster than any other method and tool.
The New Ez will go the custom way and offer crazy and unreal solutions.






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Old 11-11-2018, 09:28 AM
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Hello,
I am just starting out with the EZ1 table. I need to buy a circular saw.
I read some recommendations here that either the Makita 5104 or the Makita 5008 are good choices.
Amazon reviewers say that the 5104 has a week engine for a 10" saw. Forum members here wrote that it has a better cut then the 5008 and is more versatile since it is larger.
Can anyone help me decide on a saw? I am only a beginner but want a saw that will serve me for a long time. I do not mind if it is going to be a little heavy since I do not plan on moving it around much.
Thanks for any reply
Cheers
Gilad
Go with an actual track saw and matching track. You'll save headache in the long run. I personally use the Makita set, but DeWalt, festool and Bosch (if you import it) are also popular.

EZ may have something great in the pipe line, but with their current offering -- miters always need test cuts or jigs because the cut line will always change, dust collection requires saw modification, track edge always changes depending on how much pressure is on the wood.

Those caveats seem small when you are looking at $150-250 savings by going with a conventional CS, but a real track saw took my projects from "I'll get around to it" to "this will be fun."
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Old 11-11-2018, 01:22 PM
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Chris, few notes to your post.

Square. You can have a $200.00 square next ro the track.
Aluminum extrusions are not straight edges and if the track is not perfect...the square is not perfect. After trying few squares with different results on different tracks...I end up with the one that is simple and stays put with 2 oversize knobs while you can use digital or simple squares to set it.

You make one line from one side of the panel and another line from the opposite line. If the lines fit perfect...you have a perfectly setup square.

The Edges was moving on the first and maybe the second mold.
We had to adjust 4 times to have the best possible results.
The edges don't move after placing the track on the panel. There is a stop there to always have the same edge. If the saw arbor is old and you have a bad blade
then you will see that the edge don't always align.
To fiix that you need a story stick or the repeaters..

while all the above and just about anything in life can be better.
EZ is making a very costly and time consuming investment for the next
gen. of Hybrid systems using CNC methods and ways without the controls.

To min. the effect of straightness we have the track in the center.
To get the clamping ability of narrow strips we have 2 side tracks at the ends.
To attach any aftermarket square and more stuff...we have 2 T-Tracks at the end. To get a perfect ( the best possible self aligning connection we have 3 self aligning dove tails extruded.
for clean cuts we have inserts that apply pressure to the materials..

And the best of all is that you can always use a plunge saw on the ez-track
...If you like to plunge.


To make sure that your track don't move you can use antiskip strips but I don't like them. You have to drop the track in place instead of sliding the track to the next cut. All the above ( Thanks for the feedback) is under many years of testing and reviewed by few people. that will allow us to intro the best possible
system... again.

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Old 11-11-2018, 02:35 PM
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Ya, I think Christopher has it right, stick with a manufacturer that offers a saw and track. Makita seems popular, highly rated and reasonable priced.

Not sure how you can say that the edges don't move after you place the track on the panel, sure they do. The edges hold the track up off the panel, push down on the track and the edges flare out, let up on the track and the edges pull back in. With some edges the weight of my 5007MGA isn't enough to push the track onto the panel. All this is saying that if you clamp your track down then make a cut, you will cut more off your anti chip edge then if the track is just setting on your panel, the edge no longer indicates the cutline.
Best of all is a plunge saw on the EZ track? Why would you do that? You lose the manufacturer designed track to work with their saw. You lose depth of cut, same line bevel cutting, and your vacuum is not as effective as you've moved the saw up off your panel. I can't think of a positive.

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Chris, few notes to your post.

Square. You can have a $200.00 square next ro the track.
Aluminum extrusions are not straight edges and if the track is not perfect...the square is not perfect. After trying few squares with different results on different tracks...I end up with the one that is simple and stays put with 2 oversize knobs while you can use digital or simple squares to set it.

You make one line from one side of the panel and another line from the opposite line. If the lines fit perfect...you have a perfectly setup square.

The Edges was moving on the first and maybe the second mold.
We had to adjust 4 times to have the best possible results.
The edges don't move after placing the track on the panel. There is a stop there to always have the same edge. If the saw arbor is old and you have a bad blade
then you will see that the edge don't always align.
To fiix that you need a story stick or the repeaters..

while all the above and just about anything in life can be better.
EZ is making a very costly and time consuming investment for the next
gen. of Hybrid systems using CNC methods and ways without the controls.

To min. the effect of straightness we have the track in the center.
To get the clamping ability of narrow strips we have 2 side tracks at the ends.
To attach any aftermarket square and more stuff...we have 2 T-Tracks at the end. To get a perfect ( the best possible self aligning connection we have 3 self aligning dove tails extruded.
for clean cuts we have inserts that apply pressure to the materials..

And the best of all is that you can always use a plunge saw on the ez-track
...If you like to plunge.



To make sure that your track don't move you can use antiskip strips but I don't like them. You have to drop the track in place instead of sliding the track to the next cut. All the above ( Thanks for the feedback) is under many years of testing and reviewed by few people. that will allow us to intro the best possible
system... again.

thanks
dino
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Old 11-11-2018, 05:42 PM
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Ya, I think Christopher has it right, stick with a manufacturer that offers a saw and track. Makita seems popular, highly rated and reasonable priced.

I have one, almost new for sale.


Not sure how you can say that the edges don't move after you place the track on the panel, sure they do.
The "issue" was fixed long ago.maybe you have very old edges.

The edges hold the track up off the panel, push down on the track and the edges flare out, let up on the track and the edges pull back in. With some edges the weight of my 5007MGA isn't enough to push the track onto the panel. All this is saying that if you clamp your track down then make a cut, you will cut more off your anti chip edge then if the track is just setting on your panel, the edge no longer indicates the cutline.

The "issue" was fixed.
The edges are designed to provide pressure in order to avoid any uplifting of the materials with unrealistic clean cuts with Any blade.
The clean cuts that you get with EZ is the best possible.
Ez was the first to offer complete antichip protection on both sides of the cut.
The feature was "taken" by Festool after they talked against the need for it.
When you use the saw with the UEG ( Best EZ Tool) you have total antichip protection without a track and in both sides of the blade.
I cannot find a better to rip. You can even cut the panel in vertical without the need to lift and move the panels around.
One simple cutting grid and you have the easiest-cleanest and faster cut
without moving the panel. I have a very bad back and this is how the UEG come alive. Kreg like it so much that after visiting our shop in NJ they simply cut it in half and they now have a best seller.
The EZ base and UEG and track and anything that we make is Bi-directional.
That puts the operator in the best position and makes cutting fun.
why we even talk about tracksaws now?



Best of all is a plunge saw on the EZ track? Why would you do that? You lose the manufacturer designed track to work with their saw. You lose depth of cut, same line bevel cutting, and your vacuum is not as effective as you've moved the saw up off your panel. I can't think of a positive.
Cleanest cuts with any blade.
Able to clamp and cut the thinnest strip.
( avoid the tablesaws and 100 jigs)
Use any tool in the market. Savings, freedom and more.
Most durable and straight tracks due to unique BOX -TUBE extrusion dies.
do you really want me to go over all the features?

Enjoy the weekend.
thanks
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Old 11-11-2018, 06:32 PM
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Confused?

What type of cuts do you make?
What other tools do you have?

thanks.

Sean, thanks for the feedback.
I say yes and you say no... you really have to try and see it.

the 30 days no questions asked return policy -
satisfaction guarantee is going back next week.
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Old 11-11-2018, 06:33 PM
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Some of my edges are only a few years old. Not sure when they changed.
When I want super clean cut I put the good side of my panel facing down.
If you want to sell your Makita give me a price. Then maybe I try it and discover that you were right all along


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Cleanest cuts with any blade.
Able to clamp and cut the thinnest strip.
( avoid the tablesaws and 100 jigs)
Use any tool in the market. Savings, freedom and more.
Most durable and straight tracks due to unique BOX -TUBE extrusion dies.
do you really want me to go over all the features?

Enjoy the weekend.
thanks
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Old 11-11-2018, 07:14 PM
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Some of my edges are only a few years old. Not sure when they changed.
When I want super clean cut I put the good side of my panel facing down.
If you want to sell your Makita give me a price. Then maybe I try it and discover that you were right all along
You may want to wait for some dino-mod's?
I want to reverse the plunge and make it Captive.
Install the new base for the UEG and the self-squaring on-board jig...
this way you can use it for regular cuts without a track and cut square framing lumber without a square...You get the idea.

wait. and you can have the first good plunge saw.
Hilti use to make a Hybrid rear plunge-regular saw.
It was almost perfect for EZ and sales sky-rocketed.

The saw was pulled off the US market without a notice.
You see? For every customer the "Green" company was losing...
they don't only lost a saw and a track....they was losing almost 10K.
When you in...you have to dance. You take the plunge
and you are screwed forever. If another company was in their way...
they first use all the attack dogs...( You have no idea)
they later use...few pretenders " students".... when in reality they worked for them in the company ( I found that out from Paul B, A German Friend)
Having dealers policies in place to stop you from displaying your product...

You can say that I'm upset and this is good.
I can't wait to re-start the fires and get done with the original promise.

Unrealistic and super simplified sophistication.
The UEG in the newer and modified form..( My son's baby invention)
is becoming the Spider-Saw.

I have to finance/sale 1000 EZ-Shops at $1.000 each in order to start
the EZ-Spider.
Next week I will start a new site for the EZ-SHOP at pre-order pricing.
$1000.00 each plus $100.00 shipping.

EZ-ONE with all stops-clamps-base etc...extended table top.
SSRK with X-Y stops
UEG with dual Use. Saw and Router.

An $2000.00 Value ( MSRP) for $1000.00 plus $100 shipping.
A complete EZ shop with router table and tablesaw modules.

Then we will start the Spider saw. ( My son Christo is in top of this one)
Almost everything that the ez-shop can do but super portable and
unrealistic simple flex-ability. The opposite of German engineering.
I think is more of Greek and American way of thinking.

Instead complaining for non delivering ....help us to win the war that was
forced upon us and almost stop EZ at his tracks....
Ask The Ez gurus and they will tell you.
Burt, Joe, Rick and don't forget Dik, Joe and few more....

They paid all editors for a free vacation and they actually enforced selling policies that they had to pay big fines for price fixing in AU.

I'm back and this is the good news.
Ez endure so much the last 5 years .... ( stress can kill you)
but I now now what to do and learned few lessons in the way...

Why I'm going back? I just learned of a secret ongoing effort vs ez and I thought we was done with it....

Sorry about that guys but I have to deal with reality and pay the cost.

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This is good news! It's hard to find people with both the passion, integrity, and experience to carry the vision.

Most people know that a slick ad campaign is like putting a tuxedo on a pig and drives up costs. But a good ad makes you want to be the pig. This is part of what EZ is up against.

Another is the "plug and play" mentality of the average consumer. A lot of people expect to use a product as is right out of the box. They also expect it to do a lot of different tasks with little or no adjustment which is kind of like asking for a sports coupe that can also be a monster truck.

The best products have to be dialed in, adjusted, and even customized to reach their full potential. It doesn't matter if it's a car, a computer, or a circular saw.

I believe most of us who really like our EZ tools are early adapters who clearly understand the tasks we need to do and are willing to think outside the box to have a customizable system that is safer and more efficient than traditional methods. But we're not the majority.
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