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Old 01-13-2013, 02:21 PM
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nothing new...

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Old 01-13-2013, 04:44 PM
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I wonder if Loggerhead had a patent? Sears says their Chinese tool is based on an old patent so maybe not. Hate to see stuff like that. Not only is Loggerhead hurt but it's likely the new tool is inferior to the original so the customer is also hurt.
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:54 PM
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Answered my own question. Yes, it was patented.
Owner also teaches Industrial Design at Northwestern
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http://loggerheadtools.com/
Article about fight
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/09/bu...f=todayspaper&
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Old 01-13-2013, 06:40 PM
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I wonder if Loggerhead had a patent? Sears says their Chinese tool is based on an old patent so maybe not. Hate to see stuff like that. Not only is Loggerhead hurt but it's likely the new tool is inferior to the original so the customer is also hurt.
Sean this is rape.
Raping the American Dream and telling all Americans not to invent because...

The guy spend millions to get his factory ready.
I'm sure after he received a promise and orders fron Sears.

We will see few lawsuits against copy-cats and thiefs.
I was very lucky to have the support of the ez guys at first
and now additional support
of a good team/new partnership with hands on experience.

in time, the ez-book is going to name few large companies...
soon after the lawsuits are filed.

latest one was by a fathet and son team.
The father was playing the old school type of guy
and the son was in my shop with only one thing in mind.
to take few ideas for his product development team....

The new rip-off cut in blue colors ia half the UEG.

stay tuned.
we will have fun soon.
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Old 01-13-2013, 10:21 PM
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Answered my own question. Yes, it was patented.
Owner also teaches Industrial Design at Northwestern
Link to company
http://loggerheadtools.com/
Article about fight
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/09/bu...f=todayspaper&
Hey - If that guy is in Palos Park he is my neighbor!
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Old 01-13-2013, 10:51 PM
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How much of a devience from the original patent is required to not be sued for infringement? ( can this be represented as a percentage? )
How long does a patent last?
If it is deemed that a patent is infringed on what is the recourse?
Do you get royalties on past sales?
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Old 01-13-2013, 11:20 PM
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31% is the number I hear. But that may be a myth.

http://ocpatentlawyer.com/avoiding-patent-infringement/
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Old 01-14-2013, 12:46 AM
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Bill:
That may be right, but it seems that it all depends upon how the agent from patent office interprets the statute. The government workers can get some wide latitude and they get backed up by their bosses, even if wrong -- unless there is solid court opinion on the subject. The problem always seems to be an understanding of the craft or technology and its application. For an example: we just bought an embroidery machine for my wife. 15 needles, and a very good machine, but the manual is terrible. It is translated from Japanese to English. The translators know English and the translation is probably correct, but they do not understand embroidery and many of the sentences make little sense, from an embroiderers point of view. That is much the same as happens in the patent office. Knowing the law, but not the technology. Alas! that is more fertile ground for the lawyers to plow and us to pay for. Ultimately it seems to come down to who has the most cash and best lawyers. The bad guys seem quite capable of tying good stuff up in court in the name of profits.

BTW: Like your blog -- we seem to share some of the same interests.

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Old 01-14-2013, 04:17 PM
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Thanks Phil I appreciate the good comment about my blog. I still find it hard to believe anyone reads it.

The patent situation is so crucial for economy of the U.S. The government is not going a good job in helping to protect our intellectual property. If they would simply enforce the laws we have in place we would be fine.

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Old 01-14-2013, 04:47 PM
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" The government is not doing a good job in helping to protect our intellectual property. If they would simply enforce the laws we have in place we would be fine."

That is right on!

That is the debt we pay when we are indebted to our customers, and think we HAVE to give in to play nice. Very much in error.

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