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Old 01-09-2014, 12:56 PM
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Default New little brother to Jessem Doweling Jig

I love my big Jessem Jig but just got an e-mail from Lee Valley about a new Jessem Jig. It looks like it is as or more versatile then the big one and is far cheaper. You might want to take a look as it is at an introductory price until the 22nd.

http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/pag...,42319&p=71493
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Old 01-09-2014, 04:43 PM
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Here's their website with a video that shows how it works.
http://www.jessemdirect.com/JessEm_D...master-kit.htm
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Old 01-10-2014, 02:13 PM
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Here's their website with a video that shows how it works.
http://www.jessemdirect.com/JessEm_D...master-kit.htm
Not a new product... Had mine for quite awhile... Love it!
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Old 01-10-2014, 03:10 PM
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I also have the larger JessEm jig. This new one might eventually end up in my shop just for the 1/2 dowel capability. (I just shot off an email to JessEm asking about 1/2" plans on the 08300, will post here if I get a response.)

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Old 02-01-2014, 09:06 AM
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Just got mine. Played with it a little bit and love it. I have never done any doweling on a project yet, but I have several to do that will be alot easier with dowels. I have had a hard time finding any information on how to correctly use dowels. What kind of dowels are the best, fluted or spiral cut? What length should be used? Should the dowel material match the wood that it is joining? Any info or "rules of thumb" would be great.
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Old 02-02-2014, 09:25 AM
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Just got mine. Played with it a little bit and love it. I have never done any doweling on a project yet, but I have several to do that will be alot easier with dowels. I have had a hard time finding any information on how to correctly use dowels. What kind of dowels are the best, fluted or spiral cut? What length should be used? Should the dowel material match the wood that it is joining? Any info or "rules of thumb" would be great.
I recently bought a Dowelmax Classic, and I love it too. I don't know if there's any real difference between fluted or spiral cut. The purpose of both is to help excess glue leave the dowel hole. I do know that there's a slight difference in size between 3/8" dowels, so I use the 9.6mm bit that came with the Dowelmax and a standard 3/8" drill bit (which is just a few thousandths bigger), depending on the size of the dowels I am using. BTW: McFeely's has the best price on Dowels that I've found. I just ordered a box of 1,000 3/8" dowels for about $15 USD, plus one dollar shipping. Sure beats buying a tiny box of 35 dowels and Home Depot.

You could make your own dowels. Lie Nielsen has a dowel plate of thick hardened steel with drilled holes for different size dowels. You just pound slightly oversized stock through the holes with a mallet. Sounds like a good way to relieve stress! There's lots of videos on YouTube showing different methods of making dowels, but frankly, I'd rather make furniture than dowels so I'll buy mine.
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Old 02-02-2014, 10:51 AM
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I have used this source for dowels: http://www.wood-dowel.com/store/
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Old 02-02-2014, 11:22 AM
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Default Additional Dowel Sources

These are more places online that you can buy dowels. There are some great selections of styles and lengths.

Some forum members will want to keep these as references for hard to find parts. So many wood parts I could not list 10 percent of the products. Doll house parts, toy and game parts. If you are online and have a little extra time, take a look at some of the products these companies make.

http://www.mainewoodconcepts.com/index.php?id=1005
http://www.bayerwood.com/catalog/
http://www.bearwood.com/
http://www.smithwood.com/
http://www.craftparts.com/index.php
http://www.caseyswood.com/
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Old 02-02-2014, 12:01 PM
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Default spiral or fluted dowels; sizing issues

There's a number of discussions that will show on the internet with a search of "fluted vs spiral dowels". I read a bunch a while ago. Taking a quick look today, this one offers some knowledgeable sounding opinions:
http://forums.finewoodworking.com/fi...uted-or-spiral
The essence of one of them is fluted is better for mdf, plywood, etc., and spiral is better in solid wood. The reasons are included in the discussion.

I've had, and still have, some confusion with sizing dowels for the dowelmax jig. I bought the 1000 pack from McFeely's, and initially thought they were sized wrong. Not so. Their dowels are 3/8". The ones from dowelmax were 9.7mm I think, slightly larger than 3/8. I find the dowelmax dowels a real pain when fitting parts. I have to pound a bit to get them tight, and then disassembly is a hassle. So I use the McFeely's for fitting. No problems at all. The dowels are slightly loose, but they go in and out easily. I use the slightly larger dowels for the actual assembly. It seems like the joints are rock solid, and I have a lot of confidence in them. It remains to be seen if I run into problems down the road. Perhaps the larger dowels might cause problems with wood shrinkage/expansion, or I might have some assembly issues on some project or other. But, so far, the above procedure has worked for me.

I also use the McFeely dowels to fix my drilling mistakes. There have been enough of those. A flush cut saw is also a real aid when fixing mistakes.

I don't know how the Jessem works with 9.7mm vs 3/8" dowels. I'd be interested to know if the too loose/extremely tight dowel fitting issues are non-existent with the Jessem.

I bought my last batch of dowels from Laurier Wood Craft, 705-386-1274, in Canada. Speaking and e-mailing the guy there was an education in dowels, and interesting beyond that. More expensive than McFeely.

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Old 02-02-2014, 02:07 PM
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Right or wrong I go the smaller dowels. I have had a Dowelmax jig for several years. I use the smaller looser fitting dowels. The dowels come in plastic bag, in dry condition. I do not have a moisture meter so I do not have any numbers to relate to. I am presuming the dowels freshly shipped in plastic bag, are going to be the driest dowels available. If you put wood glue on the dowel, the wood will expand. If you start with a tight dowel, I would be afraid of stressing the project wood to the point of cracking. I have seen that happen, and that image came to mind when you said some were too tight. Just a thought, that some of the other members may have more experience with. We use exclusively the fluted dowels, in part because that is what Dowelmax started us with and I have had long term success with the fluted dowels.

We use the dowels, in long cedar planks for signs. We have made signs up to 16 foot long, and the Dowelmax has performed flawlessly. I have run 3 rows of dowels in the edge of 2" thick by 12" wide by 16' planks. Gluing to 3 foot by 16 foot sign. We have glued the stock with Titebond Polyurethane Liquid Glue. I also prepped the edges with an Eagle America glue joint router edge, before drilling the dowel holes (though it does not matter which is first). The glue edge keeps the stress in line and the dowels hold together. We have not had any joint failure in the 7 years of outdoor application. All exposed to our Northwest Oregon coast stormy weather. It rains 240 days per year, and depending on the year, 64" to 120" of rainfall, with 60 knot to 120 knot winds. So I have to say if someone could really stress a dowel joint, it would be our signs in our climate. Though admittedly, we do not have extreme cold or sunlight. Other forum members may want to input on those subjects.

I hope that helps in some way.
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